[Geomedia-l] GeoMedia Pro versu ArcANYTHING

[NIELSEN Chad M]

"...one must have ArcGIS installed ..."

Yeah, I thought of this after I hit send... 

Apparently it is possible to convert geodatabases to shapefile using the
ogr2ogr utility (part of FWTools, which is free/open source). I haven't
tried this, but I'll give it a shot when I get a chance to see if it
actually works.

http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/fwtools/2006-January/000246.html

Chad Nielsen


-----Original Message-----
From: geomedia-l-bounces at directionsmedia.net
[mailto:geomedia-l-bounces at directionsmedia.net] On Behalf Of Malcolm
Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:43 AM
To: geomedia-l at directionsmedia.net
Subject: RE: [Geomedia-l] GeoMedia Pro versu ArcANYTHING


GM users may want to keep their ear to the wall regarding ESRI's new
file-based personal geodatabase (non-Access based), which is new in
ArcGIS
9.2 . I suspect that many ESRI users will start switching to this format
over shapefiles. ESRI announced that they "will" be releasing an API for
this new format, but that remains to be seen.

Re Chad's reply, as has been noted on this forum before, one must have
ArcGIS installed to use FME with the ESRI Geodatabase format (read or
write), just as one must have GeoMedia installed to be able write (not
read) to the Integraph Access Warehouse format with FME.

Malcolm D. Williamson
Geospatial Applications and Education Specialist
Center for Advanced Spatial Technologies
University of Arkansas
12 Ozark Hall, Fayetteville AR 72701
479.575.2734   malcolm at cast.uark.edu

> Jim,
>
> I've been working with both ESRI and Geomedia products for years, and
it
> has been my experience that both softwares pretty much suck. They both
> have their good points, of course, but they have their bad points as
> well. But to say, that one is "trash" or "crap" and the other is just
> wonderful (or at least "getting there"), seems to me biased and
> uninformed. It is also a matter of personal preference, since I find
> Geomedia to be a "pain to use" for a lot of tasks that seem to me to
be
> a lot simpler to accomplish in ArcGIS, including "projection stuff".
>
> And if you are installing ArcGIS just to read and convert GDB's
wouldn't
> it make more sense to buy FME instead? If you obviously hate ArcGIS so
> much, my suggestion is that you don't use it, and stop complaining
about
> it. And if you still must complain about it you might want to take it
to
> an ESRI or general GIS discussion list, rather than preach to the
choir.
>
>
> Chad Nielsen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geomedia-l-bounces at directionsmedia.net
> [mailto:geomedia-l-bounces at directionsmedia.net] On Behalf Of
> j.haffly at cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:13 AM
> To: geomedia-l at directionsmedia.net
> Subject: [Geomedia-l] GeoMedia Pro versu ArcANYTHING
>
>
> Just wanted to let folks know that ArcTRASH is still a pain to use for
> just about anything.
>
> I'm working for the National Guard here in Washington DC and have
> installed ArcView 9.1 due to needing to convert ESRI's geodatabase
> format to SHP so I can bring it into GeoMedia.
>
> You think InterGraph has poor documentation, try ESRI.  They explain
> what the function does but it doesnt even come close to telling you
how
> to use it!  Took me about an hour or so to figure out how to convert
the
> data.  Also, dont even think about trying to do projection stuff.
Talk
> about being in the dark ages....
>
> Add those simple tasks to stuff that is more complex and you will
> understand that GeoMedia Pro is a better platform.  Granted, layout is
> still better in ArcTrash, but we are getting there.  Also, remember,
if
> you want to use a real database, you STILL have to have that crap
> middleware ArcSDE....let's drive the price up by $14,000 why dont we?
>
> All I'm saying is that if you are in a shop that is being forced to go
> ESRI, you have many, many reasons to stay the way you are.
>
> The one thing that kills me is that it's all about the DATA!!!  If
your
> data is clean, what the hell does it matter what your front-end is?
It
> seems that the folks that control the purse have no idea about that,
do
> they?
>
> Jim Haffly
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